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Can reasoning be learned during pretraining rather than after?

Does building iterative computation into the pretraining phase itself allow language models to develop reasoning before post-hoc fine-tuning? And if so, does latent reasoning align better with outputs than explicit chain-of-thought?

Synthesis note · 2026-06-03 · sourced from Looped Models

Modern LLMs learn to "think" mainly through explicit text generation (CoT), which defers reasoning to post-training and under-leverages pretraining data. Ouro takes the opposite path: a family of pretrained Looped Language Models (LoopLM) that build reasoning into the pretraining phase through iterative computation in latent space, an entropy-regularized objective for learned depth allocation, and scaling to 7.7T tokens. The headline efficiency is striking — 1.4B and 2.6B Ouro models match up to 12B standard transformers (a 2–3× efficiency gain).

Two findings make this more than a parameter-efficiency trick. First, controlled experiments show the advantage stems not from increased knowledge capacity but from superior knowledge manipulation — the same facts, used better. Second, LoopLM's intermediate predictors are strongly aligned with the final predictor, so its latent reasoning traces are more faithful to the final answer than explicit CoT — a safety-relevant property, since articulated reasoning that diverges from the answer is exactly the failure mode CoT-monitoring fears.

This is the pretraining-native member of the recurrence cluster. Where How do looped language models actually improve reasoning in depth? explains the mechanism and Can tiny recursive networks outperform massive language models? shows it at tiny scale post-hoc, Ouro shows the same looping pays off when baked into pretraining — and reframes the faithfulness debate, since the latent trace is structurally tied to the output.

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Does RL create genuinely new reasoning capabilities or refine existing ones? Can prompt-based context override biases that were embedded during pretraining? Can reasoning scale in latent space without tokens? Is reasoning capability latent in base models or created by post-training? How do neural networks achieve compositional generalization at scale? Do language models develop actual world models or merely task heuristics? Does encoded knowledge in language models actually influence their outputs? Can models improve accuracy without degrading reasoning quality? What training dynamics and scale trigger emergence of reasoning capabilities? Can inference-time compute effectively substitute for model scale?

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looped language models build reasoning into pretraining via iterative latent computation — efficiency comes from knowledge manipulation not capacity